one of the things we heard going back to the debt ceiling negotiations in the summer of 2011, john boehner saying in effect the president played loosesy and -- lucy and yanked football and was not keeping his word on obligations he said he would undertake. i wonder if joe biden going back to offer a at this time for at that time argument? would be interesting to for reporters would follow up. what were the five occasions? what were the specific deals and how did republicans back out at them? bill: what date did it happen and what did republicans supposedly promise you and how did they renege on that. >> right. bill: here is john boehner, 10 days ago, similar topic here. listen to the speaker. >> republicans want to balance the budget. the president doesn't. republicans want to solve our long-term debt problem. the president doesn't. we want to unlock our energy resources to put more americans back to work. the president doesn't. bill: he also said it will take more than dinner dates and phone calls. and that goes back to your point about the charm offensive. like, what is truly working her